User talk:Scribe

Annual reports of companies Plimer is/was director with

Hi Scribe, I have posted the links to the annual reports of the mining companies Plimer is/was associated with over at Talk:Ian Plimer if you are interested. cheers --Bob Burton 15:29, 19 October 2009 (EDT)

Re cite tools

Hi Scribe, thanks for the links but the last time I looked at those -- and it still seems like this remains a problem -- is that they display an access date and not a publication date. Correct me on this point if I'm wrong about one of them (though I note from the documentation for the Firefox extension that it uses access date not publication date). I know using the old style ref tags is more time intensive but I think it is crucial that references have the date on which the article was published (where that information is available).--Bob Burton 10:05, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Scribe, what I do is use my homebuilt bookmarklet to make a first draft of the ref, then edit it (incl. filling in the author and pubdate). Not ideal, and could be improved, and I'm sure there are better ones out there (like the FF extension?). And you might remind Bob that a tool that gets you 3/4 of the way is well worth recommending, when the alternative is to build from scratch. Anna Haynes 15:27, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for the comments both of you. I also have a bookmarklet, saved in FF with "location" set to:

javascript:function%20h(t){var%20z=document.getElementsByTagName(t)[0];return%20z&&z.childNodes[0]?e(t,z.childNodes[0].nodeValue):'';}function%20e(a,b){var%20d=Date.parse(b);return%20a&&b?('|'+a+'='+(d?f(d):b)+'\n'):''}function%20z(x){return%20x<10?'0'+x:x}function%20f(x){var%20d=new%20Date(x);return%20d.getFullYear()+'-'+z(d.getMonth()+1)+'-'+z(d.getDate())}var%20s=e('url',window.location)+e('accessdate',Date())+e('title',document.title)+e('date',document.lastModified)+e('quote',window.getSelection()+'')+h('h1')+h('h2');var%20m=document.getElementsByTagName('meta');for(var%20i=0;i<m.length;i++){s+=e(m[i].getAttribute('name'),m[i].getAttribute('content'))}alert('<ref>'%20+%20'{{cite%20web'+s+'}}'%20+'</ref>')

(I've edited the javascript a bit to make it more useful, but you usually need to take some lines out of the output before using it)

As for dates, the publication date is often not available. Wikicite+ does give you the option to insert if if available. Scribe 16:50, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Badge arrangement

Hi Scribe, great work thanks -- much nicer. I tweaked it a little on the Rinehart page so that the badge template names are all on the same line -- doesn't change the display at all (or if it does it is so marginal it doesn't matter much. cheers --Bob Burton 03:39, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Reply from Anne Landman

February 26, 2012 9:08 a.m. MST
Hi Scribe, I am no longer with the Center for Media and Democracy. I was let go about three weeks ago. If you have ideas for how to improve SW, please send them to CMD Executive Director Lisa Graves. I have since started by own blog at http://www.annelandmanblog.com. Hope you visit! Anne Landman

Thank you, Anne. ≡ SCRIBE ≡ 00:08, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Reply from Friday Thorn

Scribe:

Someone emailed us (CMD) that the picture was demeaning because he suffers from a rare disease. We agreed and changed the photo but also added a video of Monckton giving a speech in which he lays out his views very thoroughly. The article shouldn't be about his appearance but rather his actions. --Friday Thorn 14:27, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

This is a more complex issue than you may realise. Monckton suffers from Graves' Disease, which is linked to psychiatric problems. Given his erratic behaviour, that link is important. The previous photo we had showed some of the symptoms of the disease, namely proptosis (bulging eyes), a sign that he is unwell and a powerful signal to other people (and especially people with medical training) that there is something seriously wrong — as in fact there is something seriously wrong. It's not our job to sugar the pill or respond to PR requests to sanitise the truth. It is what it is. It is not demeaning to show a photo taken in public of a man who advocates denialist opinions, which are extremely dangerous for all mankind, while suffering from a disease that affects mentation. So his appearance and his actions are intimately linked. I will change the picture back to the original, and request that you leave it as such. ≡ SCRIBE ≡ 00:41, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Block on Mike

Hi Scribe - I saw that you had placed an indefinite block on user Mike, a long-time contributor to SourceWatch. Having followed his work for a long time I was a little surprised that he would have breached CW standards.

In the past a permanent block has only ever been placed on users who have vandalised content, been spammers or been disruptive. Blocking has only even been used as a method of last resort. I checked half a dozen of Mike's most recent contributions and couldn't see what the issue is.

So, in the absence of evidence that his editing has breached SW editing standards, I have reverted the block.--Bob Burton (talk) 23:09, 4 June 2014 (EDT)

Suggest you check the pages he's created more closely. He seems intent on attacking what he sees as fringe medicine fronts. It's quite subtle, but clear if you read enough of his edits. His recent additions to the Aspartame page push the corporate line that Aspartame is completely safe. He followed this, on the Aspartame page, with an internal link to a page he created on someone who is involved with a group that warns about aspartame. I'm not aware that Sourcewatch sees itself as the new Quackwatch, which seems to be what Mike is trying to do. This has nothing to do with the mission of Sourcewatch in my experience. Any attempt to pillory independent, self-funded community groups that, for instance, warn the public about suspect chemicals ties SW to a corporate agenda. So I think Mike is subtly vandalising th4 site, and should be indeffed. ≡ SCRIBE ≡ 23:28, 4 June 2014 (EDT)

Hard to read your signature

Hi, it is really hard to read your signature.--Myrtonos 03:12, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, they must have changed a font setting for the site. Fixed now. ≡ SCRIBE ≡ 03:49, 1 February 2019 (UTC)